LI-ESWT: kolejna interesująca możliwość leczenia zaburzeń wz

LI-ESWT: kolejna interesująca możliwość leczenia zaburzeń wz

Nieprzeczytany postautor: kangur__2007 » 04 lis 2014, 12:16

Uprzejmie donoszę Sz. Panom Kolegom, że pojawiła się nowa metoda leczenia zaburzeń wzwodu, LI-ESWT (Low Intensity Extracorporeal Shock Wave Therapy). Wyniki prób sa zachęcające.

Tu jest fundamentalny artykuł z odnośnikami do doniesień z prób, niestety tylko po angielsku, a za długi by tłumaczyć. Może by ktoś przesłał to dr Sosnowskiemu i zasięgnął opinii? Metoda działa również na pacjentów, na których słabo lub wcale nie działają inhibitory PDE5 (Viagra, Cialis, Levitra). Nową metodę oferują prywatne kliniki w UK, zapewne w Niemczech. W Australii na razie tylko jedna, niestety w Perth, na drugim końcu kontynentu ode mnie... :(



Shockwave Treatment of Erectile Dysfunction

Low-intensity extracorporeal shock wave therapy (LI-ESWT) is a novel modality that has recently been developed for treating erectile dysfunction (ED). Unlike other current treatment options for ED, all of which are palliative in nature, LI-ESWT is unique in that it aims to restore the erectile mechanism in order to enable natural or spontaneous erections. Results from basic science experiments have provided evidence that LI-ESWT induces cellular microtrauma, which in turn stimulates the release of angiogenic factors and the subsequent neovascularization of the treated tissue. Extracorporeal shock wave therapy (ESWT) has been clinically investigated and applied in several medical fields with various degrees of success. High-intensity shock wave therapy is used for lithotripsy because of its focused mechanical destructive nature, and medium-intensity shock waves have been shown to have anti-inflammatory properties and are used for treating a wide array of orthopedic conditions, such as non-union fractures, tendonitis, and bursitis. In contrast, LI-ESWT has angiogenetic properties and is therefore used in the management of chronic wounds, peripheral neuropathy, and in cardiac neovascularization. As a result of these characteristics we initiated a series of experiments evaluating the effect of LI-ESWT on the cavernosal tissue of patients with vasculogenic ED. The results of our studies, which also included a double-blind randomized control trial, confirm that LI-ESWT generates a significant clinical improvement of erectile function and a significant improvement in penile hemodynamics without any adverse effects. Although further extensive research is needed, LI-ESWT may create a new standard of care for men with vasculogenic ED.

Introduction
The current nonsurgical treatment modalities in the management of erectile dysfunction (ED) mainly consist of oral phosphodiesterase type 5 inhibitors (PDE5is) and/or intracavernosal injections of vasodilating agents. These treatments are very effective and are reasonably safe with rare unwanted or adverse effects. However, they all share the same major drawback: they do not alter the underlying pathophysiology of the erectile mechanism. These treatments are usually taken on demand, prior to the sexual act, and their effect is essentially time limited. Although daily administration of a PDE5i instead of on-demand treatment does address some of these problems, it still does not modify the pathophysiology of the erectile process. Moreover, the evidence that its effect on the erectile tissue is long-lasting is very limited. Presently, only a small number of men with ED can be offered treatment that would restore their spontaneous erectile function. This group includes those who would benefit from various lifestyle or drug regimen modifications, those who can be treated for relevant endocrine disorders, or those with vasculogenic ED who would benefit from microvascular surgery. Most patients with ED rely on their treatment in order to maintain their sexual function; providing a treatment for men with ED that is rehabilitative or even curative and enables them to regain spontaneous sexual activity with normal intimacy and without adverse effects is an unmet medical goal. Recently, data from several studies have accumulated that this goal could probably be met by low-intensity extracorporeal shockwave therapy (LI-ESWT) of the corpora cavernosa. This review intends to summarize the scientific background underlying the effect of this energy as well as recent clinical evidence of its effect in patients with vasculogenic ED.

Background
Shockwaves (SWs) are acoustic waves that carry energy and when propagating through a medium, can be targeted and focused noninvasively to affect a distant selected anatomical region.

When LI-ESWT is applied to an organ, the relatively weak yet focused SWs interact with the targeted deep tissues where they cause mechanical stress and microtrauma. This stress and microtrauma (also known as shear stress) induces a cascade of biological reactions that result in the release of angiogenic factors which in turn triggers neovascularization of the tissue with subsequent improvement of the blood supply.

LI-ESWT in Vitro and Animal Studies
Research on the biological effects of LI-ESWT has mainly been focused on vasculogenesis and local neovascularization. Wang and colleagues [Wang et al. 2003] discovered that LI-ESWT stimulates the expression of angiogenesis-related growth factors, such as endothelial nitric oxide synthase (eNOS) and vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF), and endothelial cell proliferation factors, such as proliferating cell nuclear antigen (PCNA). They also reported that LI-ESWT induces neovascularization, and consequently improves blood supply. Interestingly, they found that 1 week after LI-ESWT, the angiogenic marker levels rose significantly and this effect lasted for approximately 8 weeks. They also showed that neovascularization and cell proliferation were evident 4 weeks after LI-ESWT and persisted for more than 12 weeks. The same group [Wang et al. 2003] investigated the effect of LI-ESWT on neovascularization of the tendon-bone junction. For this purpose, LI-ESWT was applied to the Achilles tendon junction of 50 New Zealand rabbits. The extent of neovascularization was determined from the expression of VEGF, eNOS, and PCNA. They found that the number of neovessels and the expressions of the angiogenic markers and PCNA were substantially increased by LI-ESWT. This group previously reported similar findings in a smaller canine study [Wang et al. 2002] on the effect of this energy on bone–tendon junction in eight dogs: new capillaries and muscularized vessels were seen in obtained specimens 4 and 8 weeks after local LI-ESWT, with no change in the untreated sites.

The effect of LI-ESWT on intracellular VEGF levels has also been reported by Gutersohn and colleagues [Gutersohn et al. 1999] in human umbilical vein endothelial cells (HUVECs). They found that levels of VEGF mRNA in the LI-ESWT-treated cells were significantly greater than those in the untreated controls. The effect of LI-ESWT on intracellular VEGF levels in HUVECs has also been reported by Nishida and colleagues [Nishida et al. 2004], who found that LI-ESWT significantly increased the expression of VEGF mRNA and its receptor, Flt-1. Their investigations on the effects of LI-ESWT on a porcine model of chronic myocardial ischemia also showed that VEGF expression was significantly upregulated in the ischemic myocardial cells after treatment [Nishida et al. 2004].

Progenitor cell therapy has recently been suggested as a new approach to boost neovascularization of ischemic tissues. During acute ischemia, the release of chemo-attractant factors (i.e. VEGF) act as homing factors for circulating progenitor cells (CPCs). Aicher and colleagues [Aicher et al. 2006] investigated the effect of LI-ESWT on homing of infused human CPCs in rats with chronic hind limb ischemia. For this purpose, they applied LI-ESWT (500 hits) to the adductor muscles of the right hind limb of rats (the left hind limbs were used as the controls). Twenty-four hours after LI-ESWT, labeled CPCs were then injected. Forty-eight hours following labeled human CPC injection to the rats. They found a substantially higher number of CPCs in the SW-treated versus the untreated adductor muscles. A significant increase in blood flow was also documented following CPC treatment and LI-ESWT. From these results, Aicher and colleagues concluded that LI-ESWT may improve the efficacy of CPC treatment in chronic ischemia.

LI-ESWT for Cardiac Disease
The effect of LI-ESWT on the myocardium has also been intensively studied in recent years. In a porcine model of ischemia-induced myocardial dysfunction, Nishida and colleagues [Nishidaet al. 2004] applied LI-ESWT to chronic ischemic hearts of 28 domestic pigs. They found that LI-ESWT improved regional myocardial blood flow and the wall thickening fraction, and even brought about complete recovery of the left ventricular (LV) ejection fraction. In contrast, sustained myocardial dysfunction was found in the pigs which did not receive LI-ESWT. No complications, including arrhythmias, were observed during or after the treatment. In another study in pigs with an acute myocardial infarction, Uwatoku and colleagues [Uwatoku et al. 2007] demonstrated that LI-ESWT has a positive effect on LV remodeling. Finally, Ito and colleagues [Ito et al. 2010] showed that LI-ESWT also improved LV remodeling after the myocardial ischemia-reperfusion injury.

Clinically, the effect of LI-ESWT on the heart has also been investigated in a double-blind sham-controlled study in eight human patients with severe ischemic heart disease [Kikuchi et al. 2010]. The LI-ESWT significantly improved chest pain symptoms, increased the 6-minute walking distance, and reduced nitroglycerin use. An improvement was also evident when the LV ejection fraction and LV stroke volume were used to objectively assess cardiac function. Importantly, they reported that LI-ESWT was safe without any complications or adverse effects.

Yang and colleagues [Yang et al. 2012], in a randomized, double-blind, controlled study, also investigated the effects of LI-ESWT in 25 patients with ischemic heart disease in which angina severity scales and questionnaires were used to measure the response. Their results were similar to those that were reported by Kikuchi and colleagues [Kikuchi et al, 2010]. None of the patients in the control group reported improvements after treatment. Comparable results have also been reported by Vasyuk and colleagues [Vasyuk et al. 2010] and Wang and colleagues [Wang et al. 2012] in patients with severe coronary artery disease and refractory angina to whom LI-EWST was applied.


LI-ESWT for ED
Since one of the underlying functional causes of ED is poor cavernosal arterial blood flow, we hypothesized that inducing neovascularization by LI-ESWT could potentially improve cavernosal arterial flow which in turn would improve erectile function. If this hypothesis could be proved, LI-ESWT could then become an effective and noninvasive treatment for ED.

The purpose of our first study was to evaluate the feasibility, efficacy, and safety of LI-ESWT in 20 men, aged 56.1 ± 10.7 years, with mild to moderate ED due to cardiovascular disease and without any neurogenic etiology [Vardi et al. 2010]. These patients had ED for almost 3 years (average), and all were able to function sexually with the use of PDE5i (i.e. PDE5i responders). Our treatment protocol was based on the described methodology used in cardiac LI-ESWT [Kikuchi et al. 2010], with modifications according to the depth of the target tissue (corpora) and to anatomical differences. We applied 300 SWs (energy intensity of 0.09 mJ/mm2) to each of five different sites: three along the penile shaft and two at the crural level. The protocol consisted of two treatment sessions per week for 3 weeks, a 3-week no-treatment interval, and a second 3-week treatment period of two treatment sessions per week.

One month after LI-ESWT, the erectile function in 15 men improved. An increase by more than five points in the International Index of Erectile Function - Erectile Function (IIEF-EF) domain score was noted in 14 men, and by more than 10 points in 7 men. Five men did not respond to LI-ESWT. Overall, the average increase in the IIEF-EF domain scores was 7.4 points (13.5–20.9, p = 0.001). Furthermore, erectile function and penile blood flow were measured using nocturnal penile tumescence (NPT) and venous occlusion plethysmography of the penis, respectively. LI-ESWT improved all NPT parameters, especially in the 15 men who responded to LI-ESWT, where significant increases in the duration of the erections and penile rigidity were recorded. Penile blood flow also improved significantly and a strong correlation was found between the increase in the IIEF-EF domain scores and the improvement in penile blood flow at the 1-month follow-up examination. At the 6-month follow-up visit, 10 men reported that they still had spontaneous erections that were sufficient for penetration and did not require PDE5i support.

In view of these very successful preliminary results, the effect of LI-ESWT was further investigated in a group of men whose ED was more severe than that of the first group of study patients [Gruenwald et al. 2012]. The average initial IIEF-EF domain score of the 29 men who were recruited for this second study was 8.8 ± 1. All 29 men had not responded to oral PDE5i therapy, and had multiple cardiovascular risk factors (23), cardiovascular disease (11), and diabetes mellitus (14). The specific aim of this second study was to investigate the ability of LI-ESWT to convert nonresponders to PDE5i therapy to PDE5i responders, so that they were able to achieve vaginal penetration with oral PDE5i therapy. The results were comparable to the first study. Three months after the completion of the LI-ESWT protocol, the IIEF-EF domain scores improved by at least five points in 22 men (76%) and the mean IIEF-EF domain score increased by 10 points (to 18.8 ± 1, p < 0.0001). At the end of the study, eight men (28%) achieved normal erections (IIEF-EF domain score greater than 25) and 21 of the 29 men were able to achieve vaginal penetration with oral PDE5i therapy. Overall, 21 men (72%) were converted to PDE5i responders. Cavernosal blood flow and penile endothelial function, as measured again by venous occlusion plethysmography of the penis (flow-mediated dilatation techniques [FMDs]), were both found to be significantly improved (p = 0.0001) in the men who responded to LI-ESWT.

In both studies, a strong and significant correlation between the subjective assessment of sexual function using validated sexual function questionnaires and the objective results of penile blood flow and erectile function was found. Moreover, none of the men in both studies reported treatment-associated pain or any adverse events during or after the treatment.

The encouraging results from these two studies led us to conduct a prospective, randomized, double-blind, sham-controlled study on 60 men with ED [Vardi et al. 2012]. In this study, we investigated the effects of LI-ESWT on erectile function and penile blood flow using the identical treatment protocol and study parameters that were used in our previous two studies. For the sham-treatment, we used a probe which did not produce any SW energy but looked identical to the treatment probe and produced the same noise and feeling of a 'hit'. The demographic characteristics and the baseline mean IIEF-EF scores of the treated and sham-treated patients of this third study were similar. We found that mean IIEF-EF domain scores of the treated men were significantly higher than those of the sham-treated men. This increase in the IIEF-EF domain scores was also accompanied by improvements in cavernosal blood flows and penile endothelial function, as measured by venous occlusion plethysmography of the penis (FMD). We have been following most of these men for more than 2 years and they all report that the beneficial response that was achieved immediately after therapy has not waned ().

Table 1. The clinical studies included in the paper.

Gruenwald, I., Appel, B. and Vardi, Y. (2012) Low-intensity extracorporeal shock wave therapy - a novel effective treatment for erectile dysfunction in severe ED patients who respond poorly to PDE5 inhibitor therapy. J Sexual Med 9: 259–264.

Vardi, Y., Appel, B., Kilchevsky, A. and Gruenwald, I. (2012) Does low intensity extracorporeal shock wave therapy have a physiological effect on erectile function? Short-term results of a randomized, double-blind, sham controlled study. J Urol 187: 1769–1775.

Vardi, Y., Appel, B., Jacob, G., Massarwi, O. and Gruenwald, I. (2010) Can low-intensity extracorporeal shockwave therapy improve erectile function? A 6-month follow-up pilot study in patients with organic erectile dysfunction. Eur Urol 58: 243–248.

Discussion
The management of ED has remarkably evolved during the last decade and achieving high-quality erections has become reasonably simple for some men with ED since the introduction of PDE5is. Nevertheless, all current available treatment modalities for ED are basically 'on-demand' therapies and their mechanism of action is to improve a single sexual encounter. One of the main research goals of this coming decade is finding a cure for ED. The current lines of investigation into new ED therapies are based on the Rho-kinase pathway, as well as exploring the feasibility of gene therapy through intracorporeal injections of plasmids and stem cell regenerative therapy. The introduction of a new therapeutic modality for ED whose underlying mechanism of action is unclear or unproven certainly warrants skepticism and criticism. Hence, there are more questions than answers regarding the therapeutic use of LI-ESWT for ED. On the other hand, our consistent and repeatable results withstand these doubts because the results from our three different studies not only confirm each other, but also demonstrate that LI-ESWT has a genuine physiological effect on the erectile mechanism. Although our results are promising, they are still limited. More double-blind, randomized, controlled trials and long-term follow-up studies to confirm our findings are essential. There is also still much to investigate about the effect of LI-ESWT on the various types of ED, and the clinical parameters that could be used to predict who would benefit from LI-ESWT and who would not still require clarification, definition, and validation. There is also a need to determine the treatment protocols of LI-ESWT in order to establish the optimal protocol, in which the number of treatments and the number of penile sites to expose to LI-ESWT are defined. In this regard, we are already investigating different protocols and are offering a second 9-week treatment course for those who responded only partially to the first treatment course. Other studies are crucial for determining the optimal treatment protocol that will provide the best clinical outcome. Basic research is unquestionably required in order to explore and understand the mechanism of action of LI-ESWT on erectile tissue, as well as on other biologic systems.

Conclusions
LI-ESWT is a revolutionary treatment of ED, and probably possesses unprecedented qualities that can rehabilitate erectile tissue. The clinical improvement in subjective erectile function together with the significant improvement in penile hemodynamics following LI-ESWT confirm that LI-ESWT has unique properties that may create a new standard of care for men with ED. LI-ESWT is both feasible and tolerable and without any adverse or unwanted effects. Its main advantage is its ability to improve and potentially restore erectile function in men with ED without additional pharmacotherapy. Hence, LI-ESWT is an appealing addition to the armamentarium of existing treatment options for ED. In the near future we hope that LI-ESWT will be used for the long-term clinical management of ED either as an alternative or as an enhancer to the current treatments of ED.


http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/781506_1
Ostatnio zmieniony 04 lis 2014, 12:38 przez kangur__2007, łącznie zmieniany 1 raz
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zero objawów; VIII/2007 PSA 6,0; biopsja; diagnoza CaP cT2aNxMx, Gl.7 (3+4);
1/XI/2007 załonowa prostatektomia radykalna+PLND, wariant oszczędzający wiązki nerwowo-naczyniowe
Histopatologia pooperacyjna: pT2cN0Mx, Gl.7 (3+4);
PSA nieoznaczalne od 8 tyg. po operacji (wtedy – poniżej progu czułości analitycznej 0,04, teraz – poniżej progu czułości analitycznej 0,01)

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Nieprzeczytany postautor: stanis » 04 lis 2014, 12:30

Kangur,

Zapoznałem się pobieżnie, brzmi zachęcająco :) . Prześlę mojemu doktorowi.

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r. 1950; 2013.09 PSA=6,7; 2013.12-Biopsja: pobrano 14 bioptatów, w 1-nym CaP, Gleason (3+4); 2013.02-Scyntygr.OK, CT -OK; 2014.03-RP Gleason (3+3); T2N0M0; 2014.05-PSA=0,003; 2014.08-PSA=0,002; 2014.08 - 1-sza uretrotomia; 2014.11 - PSA=0,013 ng/ml, 2-ga uretrotomia-2014.12; 2014.12 PSA=0,016ng/ml; 2015.03 PSA=0,019ng/ml; 2015.05 PSA=0,023; 2015.07 PSA=0,028; 2015.08 PSA=0,030 ng/ml; 2015.10 PSA=0,044 ng/ml; 2016.01 PSA=0,050 ng/ml; 2016.04 PSA=0,056 ng/ml; 2016.05 PSA=0,061 ng/ml; 08.2016 PSA=0,069 ng/ml; 11.2016 PSA=0,066 ng/ml; 01.2017 PSA=0,088 ng/ml; 05.2017 PSA=0,098 ng/ml; 09.2017 PSA=0,106 ng/ml; 12.2017 PSA=0,142 ng/ml; 03.2018 PSA=0,182 ng/ml
XII 2017 - powtórne badanie hist-pat operacyjny: GL=3+4, nwt w wielu miejscach GK także podtorebkowo, marginesy zbyt wąskie dla oceny (-), pęcherzyki,+ nasieniowody bez nacieku.

IV-V 2018 tomoRT 10-70 Gy, PSA przed RT 0,191 ng/ml
V.2018 PSA = 0,056 ng/ml; VI.2018 PSA = 0,039 ng/ml; VIII.2018 PSA = 0,023 ng/ml; XI.2018 PSA = 0,013 ng/ml; II.2019 PSA=0,012 ng/ml; VIII.2019 PSA=0,002 ng/ml, XI.2019 - koagulacja krwawiących naczyń jako skutek TomoRT ; II.2020 PSA=0,004 ng/ml ; X.2020 PSA=0,007 ng/ml; II.2021 PSA=0,010 ng/ml; X.2021 PSA=0,011ng/ml; I.2022 PSA=0,006 ng/ml; X.2022 PSA=0,008 ng/ml

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Nieprzeczytany postautor: kangur__2007 » 04 lis 2014, 12:48

Jeszcze więcej lektury w tej samej sprawie:

http://www.medata.cz/_docs/en_renova-clinical_review.pdf

Clinical Review of
Low Intensity Shockwave Therapy
July 2013
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zero objawów; VIII/2007 PSA 6,0; biopsja; diagnoza CaP cT2aNxMx, Gl.7 (3+4);
1/XI/2007 załonowa prostatektomia radykalna+PLND, wariant oszczędzający wiązki nerwowo-naczyniowe
Histopatologia pooperacyjna: pT2cN0Mx, Gl.7 (3+4);
PSA nieoznaczalne od 8 tyg. po operacji (wtedy – poniżej progu czułości analitycznej 0,04, teraz – poniżej progu czułości analitycznej 0,01)

lipiec 2022 - PRAWIE 15 LAT PO PROSTATEKTOMII, PSA NADAL NIEOZNACZALNE
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Nieprzeczytany postautor: MAREK P. » 22 wrz 2015, 20:04

MAREK 2015 (SUWAŁKI) ,UR.1962
X/ 2014 PSA 14,5 ;II/2015 BIOPSJA G-3+3=6;
III/2015 HT- ZOLADEX 10,8-STOP;IV/2015 TK=OK,SC-OK
V/2015 PSA-4,1;VI/2015 RP ZAŁONOWA -pT3a pNO ;
G-4+3-7;VII/2015 PSA -0,03;VIII/2015 PSA -0,01;
VIII/2015 PSA- 0,00,IX/2015 PSA- 0,01,X/15 -0,01;T-4,53
II/16- 0,00; VI/16-0,02;VII/16-0,01;II/19-0,133;VI /19 SRT;
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Nieprzeczytany postautor: kangur__2007 » 23 wrz 2015, 11:17

MAREK P. pisze:A jednak można i tak ,ciekawe

http://www.fakt.pl/panis-na-pompke-pomp ... 398,1.html


Tanią wersję mu wszczepili, proteza prącia z górnej półki kosztuje około 30 000 dol.


W Australii wszczepiają za 17 000. dolarów. (wb)
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zero objawów; VIII/2007 PSA 6,0; biopsja; diagnoza CaP cT2aNxMx, Gl.7 (3+4);
1/XI/2007 załonowa prostatektomia radykalna+PLND, wariant oszczędzający wiązki nerwowo-naczyniowe
Histopatologia pooperacyjna: pT2cN0Mx, Gl.7 (3+4);
PSA nieoznaczalne od 8 tyg. po operacji (wtedy – poniżej progu czułości analitycznej 0,04, teraz – poniżej progu czułości analitycznej 0,01)

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Wszczepili protezę członka i skrócili męki pacjenta. Miał przewlekły wzwód

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III'2007 PSA 8,28;biopsja Gl1+2!?;10/V/2007 limfadenektomia węzły b/z;IX'PSA 0,07;HT VIII-XII;RT XII'07-I'08 7400cGy/37frakcji;cTpN0M0
IV'2008 PSA 0,08; X’ TK ok XII' zastrzyki przeciwzakrzepicowe
I'2009 - XII' PSA 0,35 ng/ml - 0,60 ng/ml
I’2010 MRI ok, zastrzyki przeciwzakrzepicowe do IV’, III’ scyntygrafia & TRUSok, IX’ biopsja spartolona, VII' PSA 0,61;XII' 0,83;
VII'2011 1,03 T'2,33 MRI podejrzenie wznowy VIII’ biopsja- Sclerosis atrophicans prostatae;XI' MRI b/z - obserwować, PSA XI' 1,85;
V'2012 PSA 2,68 T 2,33;VII' 3,37 T'1,23;VII' PET-CT z octanem sugeruje proces nowotworowy; X' PSA 5,40;od X' Apo-Flutam 3x dziennie;po 1 mieś. PSA 1,28; 2 mieś. 1,05; 3 mieś. PSA 0,837;T 2,07
I'2013 zastrzyk Diphereline 11,25 mg na 3 mieś.; IV'2013 PSA 3,14 drugi Dipheriline+ Apo-flutam(zaniechany po 3,5 dniach);IV' w innym lab. PSA po 2 dniach 5,31, po 2 tyg. w swoim lab. PSA 1,92 ng/ml, T 0,19 ng/ml; VI' PET-CT z Choliną rak w obrębie stercza, VII' PSA 9,50 ng/ml, bikalutamid 50 mg * biopsja stercza = ogólnie Gleason 5+4, jeszcze w obrębie torebki (margines 0,2 mm); VIII' PSA 1,30 * T 1,51 bikalutamid 50mg; IX' Zmiana na Eligard PSA 0,85 przed BT IX/X' - 30 Gy=3x10;
I'2014 PSA 0,38 ng/ml {odstawiony bikalutamid}III' PSA 0,86{koniec działania Eligardu} IV' T 0,58 ng/ml*PSA 1,17 ng/ml; VI' T 2,35 & PSA 3,24;VII' T=2,25 & PSA 4,04* VIII' PSA 4,20 T 2,52 PET naciekanie na pęcherz, pęcherzyki nasienne, węzły chłonne| VIII' PSA 4,00 T 2,58 | IX' PSA 4,02 T 1,53 | XI' PSA 6,90 Apo-Flutam 2 tyg, po tym Eligard|
I'2015 PSA 1,65>II' PET-CT z choliną, praktycznie jak w roku poprz.>IV' PSA 8,83 ng/ml, T 1,69 ng/dl, zastosowano bikalutamid> 05' uretrotomia (pobrano próbki do badania histopatol.) V' PSA 1,10; VII' PSA 0,23 ng/ml; IX' 0,26 ng/ml, XI’ TURP, XI/XII' 0,35 ng/ml
I'2016 PSA 0,34 ng/ml, T 0,12 ng/dl / II/II'I PSA 0,41 ng/ml; IV' PSA 0,62 ng/ ml, T 0,23 ng/dl; VI' PSA 0,87 ng/ml, VII posiew ujemny(zaskoczenie), IX PSA 1,70 ng/ml; IX/X' PET-CT progresja, meta do węzła chłonnego biodrowego wspólnego prawego; X' PSA 1,66 ng/ml, T 0,17 ng/dl; XI' PSA 2,14 ng/ml; XII' PSA 3,03 ng/ml, T 0,104 ng/ml
I'2017 PSA 4,05 ng/ml, 08/02/2017 Urestomia, II/III'2017 4,88 ng/ml, IV/V'17 PSA 5,36 ng/ml, 1-31maja badanie kliniczne ARAMIS, 5 maja Eligard pół roku, V/VI PSA 6,74 ng/ml, VI/VII 7,28 ng/ml; VIII PSA 9,87 ng/ml, T 0,091ng/dl 24/VIII Xtandi, 19/IX PSA 2,21 ng/ml, 04/X Eligard 45, 16/X PSA 1,55 ng/ml, 13/XI PSA 1,80 ng/ml, 05/XII PSA 3,43 ng/ml, T 0,127L ng/ml,
I'2018 PSA 9,67 ng/m/; scyntygrafia kości wolne od meta; 22/I' PSA 8,08 ng/ml; 24/I' liczne nacieki; 26/I' ChT I wlew docetakselu (jeszcze 9), II'2018 TURBT (koagulacja), badanie histopato: rak prostaty + wykryto drobnokomórkowy rak neuroendokrynny; III/IV' Eligard 45: IV' MRI pęcherz, węzły, odbyt nacieki PSA 7,97 ng/ml; V' PSA 5,92 ng/ml; VI' PSA 3,22 ng/ml; 22/06 ostatni wlew, przerwano ChT; Opiody OxyContin20mg + Lyrica75mg; VIII' 2 mieś po ChT PSA 1,81 ng/ml; VIII'23 TK podobne do poprz.; X' PSA 6,44 ng/ml; XI' 4,01 ng/ml, 22.XI' Eligard na pół roku; XII PSA 3,63 ng/ml
I'2019 02.I.' PSA 4,69 ng/ml; PSA I/II 7,72 ng/ml; 22.I' PET-CT 18-F PSMA-1007; II/III PSA 6,50 ng/ml; III/IV PSA 2,93 ng/ml (inne lab.) od 15'III Xtandi do 10'VII; 29.IV PSA 1.70 ng/ml; 30.04 cysteprostatektomia badanie pooperac. histo-pato potwierdza raka drobnokomórkowego endokrynnego; 26'VI PSA 3,03 ng/ml; 09.07 - ? ChT na drobnokomórkowca; RT 18-26.07.2019 na 5 kręg 3 frakcje x 8 Gy = 24 Gy;
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Re: LI-ESWT: kolejna interesująca możliwość leczenia zaburze

Nieprzeczytany postautor: mareksz » 01 gru 2022, 17:11

Dzień dobry Wszystkim.

Chciałbym zapytać czy ktoś z forumowiczów korzystał z metody ESWT i jak ona działa.

Znalazłem taki artykuł:
https://www.medexpress.pl/eswt-dzwiek-lepszy-niz-viagra-leczenie-zaburzen-erekcji-fala-uderzeniowa/63288

Wygląda dość obiecująco.
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Re: LI-ESWT: kolejna interesująca możliwość leczenia zaburze

Nieprzeczytany postautor: Mac » 06 gru 2022, 16:51

Ta metoda nie jest przeznaczona dla mężczyzn mających zaburzenia erekcji związane z przewodnictwem nerwowym (usunięcie całkowite lub częściowe wiązek nerwowych odpowiedzialnych za erekcję). Stosuje się ją w przypadku zaburzeń związanych z niedostatecznym ukrwieniem prącia (choroby układu krwionośnego, stwardnienie ciał jamistych etc.).
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Historia badań PSA: 05.2009 - PSA 2,364 / 10.2010 - PSA 2,53 / 01.2013 - PSA 3,16 / 11.2013 - PSA 4,71 / 04.2014 - PSA 3,81 f/t 0.12 / 06. 2014 levoxa / 07.2014 - 3,82 / 11.2014 - PSA 4,23 f/t 0,11 / 03.2015 - PSA 4,62 / 04.2015 - PSA 4,09 /
Badania dodatkowe: DRE (12.2013): DRE+ wyczuwalny guzek ok. 8 mm, TRUS (02.2014): OK, Biopsja (02.2014): brak utkania nowotworowego (6 rdzeni), MRI (12.2014) gruczoł krokowy 38×32×38 (24ml) o zachowanej budowie strefowej, strefy przejściowe gruczolakowato przebudowane, nie uwidoczniono w badaniu MR typowej zmiany w kierunku CaP itp. (aparat 3 teslowy, 32 kanały - badanie przed i po kontraście z badaniem dynamicznym i dyfuzją), Test PCA3 (12.2014): Score 87 (very high), Biopsja saturacyjna (02.2015): Adenocarcinoma tubulare G1, Gleason 7(3+4) w jednym wycinku /apex strona prawa/, PIN 1 w jednym wycinku, ASAP w jednym wycinku (20 rdzeni).

RP (05.05.2015) (metodą otwartą) w MSS w Warszawie
Badanie histopatologiczne: Rodzaj materiału (węzły chłonne zasłonowe, prostata, powięź Denovillersa), Rozpoznanie: Fragmenty tkanki tłuszczowej z drobnym węzłem chłonnym bez zmian nowotworowych, Fragmenty tkanki tłuszczowej bez zmian nowotworowych, Gruczoł krokowy 2,5×4,0×3,0 Adenocarcinoma prostatae w skali Gleasona 7 (3+4); rak nacieka wierzchołek stercza po obu stronach, oba płaty stercza (przekroje 1-5) oraz podstawę stercza po stronie prawej; utkanie nie nacieka torebki stercza; we wszystkich wycinkach margines chirurgiczny jest bez zmian nowotworowych, Fragment tkanki tłuszczowej bez zmian nowotworowych.
Powikłania: po RP - zatorowość płucna, trzymanie moczu po 3 tygodniach od wyjęcia cewnika - bez problemów, oddawanie moczu bez większych problemów po 3 miesiącach od RP, potencja? coś się zaczyna ruszać :).

PSA po RP: 05.08.2015 - 0,003 / 04.11.2015 - 0,008 / 05.02.2016 - 0,007 / 05.05.2016 - 0,017 / 25.08.2016 - 0,012 / 9.11.2016 - 0,011 / 6.02.2017 - poniżej 0,003 / 5.05.2017 - 0,021 / 4.08.2017 - 0,018 / 6.11.2017 - 0,013 / 6.02.2018 - 0,011 / 5.05.2018 - 0,014 / 16.08.2018 - 0,016 / 3.11.2018 - 0,02 / 5.02.2019 - 0,021 / 5.05.2019 - 0,019 / 20.07.2019 - 0.019 / 6.11.2017 - 0,007 / 5.02.2020 - 0,014 ng/ml / 09.06.2020 - 0,02 ng/ml / 23.09.2020 - 0,013 ng/ml 19.05.2021 - 0,092 ng/ml 18.08.2021 - 0,011 ng/ml, 15.12.2021 - 0,016 ng/ml
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Re: LI-ESWT: kolejna interesująca możliwość leczenia zaburze

Nieprzeczytany postautor: mareksz » 26 sty 2023, 10:05

Czyli jeżeli po usunięciu prostaty są zachowane pęczki nerwowe to powinna zadziałać.
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Nieprzeczytany postautor: kemoturf » 26 sty 2023, 10:50

mareksz pisze:jeżeli po usunięciu prostaty są zachowane pęczki nerwowe to powinna zadziałać.

Raczej powinien :)

Problemy z erekcją są sprawą mocno indywidualną. Przyjmuje się, że jeśli zachowane są pęczki nerwowo naczyniowe to zaburzenia erekcji są rzadsze. Jakkolwiek zdarzają się problemy. Wiele zależy od kondycji ogólnej pacjenta, o którą warto cały czas dbać i trenować.

Należy jednak stwierdzić, że usunięcie prostaty pogarsza zdolność do erekcji, jest ona trudniej osiągalna, mniej intensywna a wzwód mniejszy. Tak to najczęściej bywa.
W przypadku operacji nieoszczędzającej, poza większymi problemami z erekcją, choć ponoć też możliwą, częstsze jest nietrzymanie moczu. Poprawne wykonanie operacji oszczędzającej zależy od umiejętności chirurga oraz stopnia zaawansowania nowotworu. Doszczętność onkologiczna jest stawiania jednak na pierwszym miejscu.
Ur. 1964. 03'2013 PSA - 5.07ng/ml; X'2013 - 12,06ng/ml, pierwsza biopsja negatywna; XI'2013 druga biopsja negatywna; V'2014 PSA - 52.06ng/ml; VI'2014 - trzecia biopsja, Adenocarcinoma solidum GS (5+5) w prawym płacie; VI'2014 TK, scyntygrafia, bez ognisk, RM 2cm zmiany NPL w strefie obwodowej prostaty w prawym płacie; koniec VI'2014 radykalna prostatektomia Adenocarcinoma GS 9 (4+5), komórki raka w naczyniach i nerwach, pT2b, margines ujemny 0,1mm; VIII'2014 PSA po operacji 7ng/ml; PET-CH - przerzuty do węzłów; IX'2014 - początek hormonoterapii Zoladex; X'2014 r IMRT węzłów w miednicy 50Gy 25 frakcji; XI'2014 PSA 0,04ng/ml, I'2015 PSA 0,04ng/ml, II'2015 PSA 0,03ng/ml, III'2015 PSA 0,02ng/ml, VI'2015 PSA 0,04ng/ml, V'2015 PSA 0,03ng/ml, VI'2015 PSA 0,04ng/ml, VII'2015 PSA<0,01ng/ml, IX'2015 PSA<0,01ng/ml, XI'2015 PSA<0,01ng/ml, XII'2015 PSA 0,002ng/ml, II'2016 PSA 0,005ng/ml, wit. C dożylnie 2x25g, IV'2016 PSA0.000 ng/ml, wit. C dożylnie 4x25g, V'2016 PSA 0.000ng/ml, VII'2016 wit. C dożylnie 4x25g, VIII'2016 PSA 0,000ng/ml, kontynuacja suplementacji i Zoladexu, XI'2016 0,000ng/ml, II'2017 0,000ng/ml, badanie CTC - 1350/ml, 3 x kurkumina i 3 x salinomycyna dożylnie, V'2017 0,000ng/ml, CTC - 300/ml, VIII'2017 0,000ng/ml, 3 x kurkumina i 3 x salinomycyna dożylnie, I 2018 CTC 1800/ml, III 2018 PSA 0,000ng/ml, Zoladex STOP, wlewy 4 x Artesunate i 2 x Salinomycyna, CTC 850/ml V 2018 PSA 0.000 ng/ml Testosteron 162 ng/dl, wlewy 2 x Artesunate i 4 x Salinomycyna, VIII 2018 PSA 0.002 ng/ml Testosteron 924 ng/dl, CTC 100/ml, 4 x Artesunate i 2 x Salinomycyna, XI 2018 PSA 0,029, I 2019 PSA 0,079, II 2019 PSA 0,092 - 11 mcy bez HT, II 2019 CT - brak podejrzanych ognisk, powiększona głowa trzustki 55x45, III 2019 PSA 0,186, V 2019 PSA 0,41, VI 2019 PSA 0,52, VI 2019 PET PSMA F18, wznowa 6 mm w loży po pęcherzyku nasiennym, SUV 2,2, IX 2019 PSA 0,88, Binabic, X 2019 PSA 0,26, SBRT na zmianę z PET - 33,75Gy w 5 frakcjach, Binabic - stop, XII 2019 PSA 0,83, I 2020 PSA 1.38, II 2020 PSA 1.39, PET PSMA bez ognisk i przyczyn wzrostu PSA, III 2020 PSA 1.88, MRI bez ognisk nowotworowych, 1 IV 2020 Dipheriline, VI 2020, PSA <0,002, Testosteron 0,11 ng/ml, IX 2020 PSA 0,003, XI 6 wlewów kwasu salinomycyny, I 2021 PSA 0,002, III 2021 PSA 0,000, V 2021, resweratol, VI 2021 EGCG, Hydroxytyrozol, VI 2021 - III 2022 PSA 0,000, od II 2022 wlewy z salinomycyny i kurkuminy na przemian co 3 tygodnie, od IV 2022 bez HT, IX 2022 PSA 0,202, XI 2022 PSA 0,549, XII 2022 PSA 0,82 PET-PSMA wznowa w loży 5mm, bisko spojenia łonowego SUV 15,9
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Re: LI-ESWT: kolejna interesująca możliwość leczenia zaburze

Nieprzeczytany postautor: mareksz » 26 sty 2023, 11:49

No powinien :)

Trochę poszperałem i wygląda na to, że warto spróbować po prostatektomii:
https://www.mazemenshealth.com/blog/shockwave-therapy-effectiveness/
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Nieprzeczytany postautor: irq » 26 sty 2023, 16:01

etam, nie warto. Na koniec i tak nie wygrasz z ... bólem głowy!
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